Pastor and Host of The Conversation Podcast, Adam Weber invites us to love people well by understanding our own obstacles, being mindful of our schedules, and making space for the people we meet today. Tangent Included: The Skull Shaver (not sponsored…yet) Practice: Make Space For Each Other
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Pastor and Host of The Conversation Podcast, Adam Weber invites us to love people well by understanding our own obstacles, being mindful of our schedules, and making space for the people we meet today. Tangent Included: The Skull Shaver (not sponsored…yet)
Practice: Make Space For Each Other
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Self-awareness is huge. I think that season brought it up to me and really just put it in my face of just like, Hey, yeah, this is a crappy situation, Adam, but you're not totally innocent. Like how you've ran for the last decade is caught up with you. And what's it like to be on the other side of you?
Hey everybody, welcome to the 10,000 Minute podcast. My name is Tim Timmons. We've got, I'm Chris, Chris Cleveland. We've got Mo Mo, Denise, and that's m o i.
And your favorite, not, let's face it. My favorite.
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Be honest. What would this podcast be without you? It's
Not on the air, that's for sure. Okay. It's true. Do they call it this? Say that on the air
Need a red light
On air. Yeah.
Yeah. On our Friday things at Mo I've been doing these Friday. Yeah. You know, hangout. I just don't come. No, it's okay. You're doing great. Okay. Um, but everybody's basically like, yeah, Tim, that's great. Thanks for saying that. But why don't you mo what do you have to say? Some like
Actually insight force.
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Okay. So, uh, speaking of Mo, oh, that's, yeah. What's my Siri? Yeah. Juan Siri. If you say, hey, he's calm, Mok, it'll say You mean Mo? Yeah. Very fancy. Uh, this week we've got a guy named Adam Webber from the Sioux Falls. Mm-hmm.
Right, right. So
Must because it's look like looking in a mirror for me.
It really was guys. It was kind of crazy.
Um, so yeah. So he is bald like hot, which is the synonymous, those are the same, same words.
So much to unpack. Yes.
So much to unpack. It's great. Um, but he did you guys, if you are, um, wanting to be more like Jesus, he did have a great recommendation. Does have a great recommendation. Skull Blade.
Well, again, it's not called the School boy guys, but if you watch the, the show today, you'll know the true name of this product.
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Uh, anywho. Um, so we do talk about that. No, we, uh, we get into some really great stuff. We talk about being on autopilot. What's that look like in relationships?
Yep. What it does to our soul, um, pulls us out from being present with people, what it looks like to love people. Well,
Ooh. So if you have trouble with being intentional with people, this is a great episode. And I, what I thought was fascinating was that he is actually it. God actually comes natural to him. Mm-hmm.
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Yes. I am French. That's where my name goes from.
French. Bulgarian. A thousand times French Bulgarian. Okay. Um, any ba Any bays. Any bays. You guys enjoy this next episode with Adam Webber. Okay, everybody, welcome to the 10,000 Minute podcast. My name's Tim Timmons. I've got Chris Cleveland.
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Hot updo today.
Oh, it's always up. Yeah.
It's a hot updo.
It's either this or your, your buzz. That's it. Well,
You know, I have been noticing a lot of guys lately coming to me saying, Hey, I came your way. I, I haven't gone all the way yet. They've, they're just usually
A, they're like a, a one or two or something. Yeah.
They're just doing the one and they're just, they're nervous to go all the way. And Adam, we'll get to you in a second. Cause I can tell that you, I dunno if you're
Afraid he's not afraid,
Baby. Are you get afraid.
A moist to my right.
Yeah. I am not bald. No, you're not. And my hair is not up.
Bluss locks.
Thank you guys. Luscious. It's actually extra frizzy, but I do appreciate you seeing
Me. Yeah. That was my name in high school. Am my potential. Yeah. Luscious LuxS.
Seems, seems right. Oh,
I thought it was frizzy
Okay. Um, I actually did have long hair in high school.
How long? Yeah.
Don't worry about it. Maybe you guys should stop giving me crap.
Wow. We're just trying to invest in you. Tim.
I'm here for you. I had Luscious locks. Le old. They all call, call me old. Luscious. LuxS. Timmons. No, though.
Oh. L l l T.
Nice. We have a guest today,
We have a guest in Front Blue. Speaking of
Lucious, luscious Locks. Uh, we've got Adam Weber, everybody. Oh yes.
Excited to be here. So
Excited to be the fans. Went wild. Um, and, and Adam, you've got Luscious Locks as well. Mm-hmm.
Whoa, whoa.
You that takes it down to like,
Is it in the, basically nothing, is it in the shower? Is it the thing that you Yeah.
You can use it in the shower. I don't, but I, I've normally for like the last 10 years, I've just used the Clippers, which gets it pretty low. Yeah. You're one then I, then I saw I was Yeah. Basically not even a no guard. Just take it down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this skull shaver, I'm not, I I, I shouldn't get income from this, but was this
Like a social media ad?
It's, did they get you or did you
That's great call. No, a buddy of mine had it. He was like, look at this thing. And I had never seen anything like it, so I searched and got one myself and I love it. So
My, it's so, it's an actual razor.
It's, uh, like a electric razor that you usually use on your face, but specifically designed for the top of your head. So
I'm gonna, I'm, I'm gonna, I think I've
Seen this and we just need to reach out for a little sponsorship. Just, just
A little bit. Duh. There we go. But does it go all the way down to the skin or do you still have a little stubble?
It goes all the way down to the skin. Okay. Like it's, it is definitely like close friends of like, have you charted, like bicking the top of your head? And I'm like, no, I'm, I don't have, I
Don't want you're to point people towards this because all
You fell is just check the show notes, you
Know? Yeah. What's it, what's it called? The skull. Skull blade. Got the skull.
The skull Shavers. Blade Skull. Skull
Shavers. Terrifying
Nickname in high school. Skull Blade.
Okay. We're now, we're just reaching guys. Okay.
Oh my gosh.
He's a, he's on viral on TikTok. That's what we have here. No, no, no. No
Thing from a dancer. I have no dance moves whatsoever.
Oh gosh.
Yeah, no, I've been following you for a while myself. And yeah. Just have a mutual appreciation. I got next to nothing figured out in life. And yeah. I've been here. I'm a long time, born and raised. South Dakotan was away for just a few years, uh, when I got my master's, but Yep. Uh, I'm a pastor, as I told the guy who was trying to sell me a kid's book at 10 o'clock last night in front of my house. I'm the last guy who ever thought I'd be a pastor. Um, but yeah. Uh, just here in Sioux Falls, I'm a huge fan of Sioux Falls. Hmm. Yeah. Got ne next to nothing figured out, as I said.
I love that. Okay. So why, why did you never think you were gonna be a pastor? And what does that mean today? Like, how does that make you feel today doing this?
Uh, well, the, well, so the guy, the, his 19 year old, uh, fella, I'm the last person who ever thought they'd be a Christian to start with. Okay. Um, I grew up, uh, in the church, uh, Luther and all my extended family is Catholic. And my earliest memories of life, not just church, are me hating church and trying to fake illness as a three-year-old, four year old trying to not go to church strong. Um, so had a definitely a, a change, uh, heart change, uh, later on in high school. And then still, I just never saw it as how my, I'm, I'm kind of an entrepreneur, heart love. I just, I'm just fascinated by, by business in general. And so I got my business marketing degree in college and I always thought I'd do some just different things, whether it's generosity or just looking to bless people through a business.
I'm like, I always thought it'd be so cool just to, to have a place where it'd be like just different uniquely run business. And, and then the summer before my senior year of college, through the craziest circumstances I filled in for a pastor. I was 21 years old and, um, filled in for a pastor against my will. And within the first week, there was three ladies in that church that had terminal cancer. Hmm. And I've always been a person who just, I, I just don't like surface conversation. I really like, Hey, how are you doing? Yeah. And it's okay if you say it sucks right now. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I've just always, when you got terminal cancer, the fluff leaves your vocabulary. I mean, you just say exactly what you feel, whether you're scared or angry or whatever. And I just, that first week meeting, those three different ladies who are my mom's age or older, I'm like, man, this is such a legit thing that you would care to even meet and hang out with me.
Yeah. Uh, with such a joint. So I, I, I knew I was supposed to be a pastor, honestly that first week, but even now, I've been a pastor for coming up on 16 years and I still wrestle with it of just like, if n I just don't, I still don't feel like a pastor. I'm such a work in progress mm-hmm.
That's me. Totally. And that's what we wanted to talk to you about. Um, a lot of your people have been calling us, having, oh boy, here we go. A lot of things to say about you. Um, this isn't too rough, man. So, so Betty from Sioux Falls said, Adam is a total. Yeah. Yeah. Um, okay. So, so why do you have the shirt kind on? And I, you know, you, you, I, I'm curious about how we love people. Well, that's kind of what I wanted to lean into you about, cuz you, in your book, love has a name and the stuff that you talk about, there's a lot about loving people. Well, and even on your bio, you talk about loving people. Well, and so I see kind right there. So I'm just curious like, what, what does this, what does this look like? Why are we not kind? And what's it look like to be kind?
Oof, man. So the, the shirt is, uh, some random thing I did a few years back to raise, uh, money for a school in Haiti. So that, that's, that's where the shirt came from. Strong, strong, but, um, no loving people. Well, so, uh, the book, the book, when I, when I wrote it, I was coming out of, uh, the hardest season of my life, uh, went through a hard, uh, situation here at the church. Leadership-wise, it's always come naturally for me to care for people. Like genuinely, I'm just, it the la the kid last night, he literally, it's nine o'clock, nine 30 at night, might have been, but even been later, I'm talking with my neighbor and this kid stops at the end of my sidewalk, Hey, uh, I wanna talk with you. And my neighbor walked away cuz he didn't wanna talk with this guy.
Perfect. So he's like, he's like, have fun with that. Oh my God. And I'm like, shoot. I'm like, come on up here. Yeah. And he's like, uh, you know, like he's almost shocked that I want to talk with him first. Yeah. And then I'm like, Hey, grab, grab a seat. And at first he didn't even grab a seat. Cause I think he was like, this is not how this works. And was he selling books? Is that what he was doing? He was selling books. And, um, so I've just genuinely, I just wanna know his story. Yeah. I'm like, how old are you and what are you doing selling books that it's dark out. Right. And so I've always been naturally just curious from people. And I, I've naturally had a heart for the person who doesn't fit in. Uh, I don't know if this is weird to share, but I was not the, uh, in elementary school was really, really hard for me.
Mm-hmm.
And so I've been on this journey since then of, okay, how do I love people? And I, I just don't want to. And for, for me, how, how do you love people? Well, uh, I think it's just noticing people, you know, the kid last night, he told me his name 17 different times. I legitimately asked him five times at least, and I still couldn't figure it out. Yeah. But I, I think he was shocked that I just cared about him. You were trying. And I offer, yeah. I offered him a bottle of water. I, I started asking him about his, you know, his family I asked him about, and you could just tell he got up and he is like, man, thank you so much for this, this. Like, and, and I, I think just noticing him and also, uh, but I don't always do it.
Well there, um, uh, something I grieve a couple of ago, uh, we were, we were purchasing something with a company and, um, as a church, we've been working on this, this purchase or whatever. And, uh, we were at this business and the, the person's like, oh, this is actually our c e o. Like, you should, you should meet him. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, I'm, I, I'm thinking to myself, he's busy. This is a big company. Yeah. Um, and so I was like, Hey, hey man, nice to meet you. And he's like, thanks so much for doing business. I'm like, no, that's, that's no problem. And a part of me was like, you should ask him how he's doing. Yeah. But I was like, ah, he's busy. Like, he doesn't need this Yahoo asking about like how he's doing. Yeah. And I, it's a public thing, so I'm not sure anything I shouldn't, literally three nights later I got a text message from the staff person that was with me, Hey, just wanted to let you know that person took their life.
Oh my gosh. A guy that you met. Right. And I'm like, what? And I was like, are you sure it was that? And he Yeah. Like the person that that we got introduced to and it just broke my heart, you know? And so, uh, whether it's a neighbor kid dropping his bike off in front of coming to my house or this guy, like, there's something powerful about being like, just seen. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Like, I just wanna get to know you. Yes. Like, how are you doing? Yes. And so I think when you just see somebody, there's just like, uh, it makes that person feel loved. I don't wanna get all pastors here, uh, in the, I think it's one of the johns. So John's writing these letters and he says, when we love one another, uh, his love is made perfect within us. And I, I, it is so cool. So I've been on this journey of like trying to intentionally love people and all this kind of stuff. And I don't know what it is, but it almost is addicting. It's like contagious. Like, something I've realized is when I'm restless, Hey Adam, why don't you go serve somebody love somebody? Cuz for some reason when you do that, like it gets you outta yourself and for some reason you just feel at peace or you feel like a sense of love.
And so I was, I was thinking about those words from John and, and I, I've always thought about it like, when we love somebody, they see the perfect love of of God inside of us. Right. Which is so rad. Right. You know, like, that's, that's the legit, but I just had this moment where I was like, no, but it applies to you too, Adam. Like when you love somebody else, my love inside you is made perfect. Mm-hmm. And that's why I feel so good when you're loving somebody with no strings attached. Cuz you're never closer to my heart than when you're doing that. Mm-hmm.
I think that is, I mean, instead of being pastors, I mean, that, that is the most human of humans right there. I you said it so well at the end. I mean, that, that is what it means to actually probably be human if it's Genesis one and two. And that was the intent of just who we were and our identities and loving each other. Well, God. Yeah. It's so human. I love
It. Well, and it's, uh, and yet like, you know, like just, just in our divided world, the next news story that comes out and everybody's all over the place. Mm-hmm.
Well, I love, yeah. Do you have a
Thought? Yeah. I just, you mentioned about a season Yep. Where you felt burnt out and
Didn't wanna love people, didn't
Wanna love people. And I'm curious what holds people back? Is it, is it the burnout of loving in this way? Or is it just other factors? Is it margin, is it fear? Hmm. What exactly holds us back from having almost the energy and the curiosity to be that awake and aware every day to love people?
That's good. I, I think there's maybe two different besides that. So the season, uh, a few years ago was really feeling hurt. And so I think what kept, like, if you're really hurt or jaded, I, I think what kept me from wanting to love people was almost this screw you mentality inside
Me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of like, of like, I'm not doing that again. Mm-hmm.
I used to think, at what point do you become a jaded old 60 year old man? Mm. Like, how do you get to be that angry? Like, really, like you're, that ang like, I just couldn't understand how a person could be angry. Now I ask the exact same question, but the opposite. Hmm. Hmm. How do you get to be 60 years old and still assume the best about people Mm. And still genuinely wanna care for people mm-hmm.
Like, even last night, I actually, my wife said, she's like, what are you doing tomorrow? Like, and I'm like, what do you mean? And she's like, have you seen your schedule?
Ooh. Did you hear that? I love that. That's so good. Have you guys ever felt like someone treated you like a robot or a machine? All right. On the other side of that, how many times have we treated other people like robots or overlooked them to do whatever things we need to get done or even to do God's work? And then lastly, how often do we treat ourselves and our very lives? Like we are machines? Just look at your schedule. Let's just check in for a moment. Am I making time to see people and be present with them? Am I making time to be present myself and with God even in this moment?
And so for me, and I've really, uh, I've really been trying to, this is, this is a growth area for me. I'm standing in to that person who's been through a crappy season for me. Mine was 2018. I'm standing in the best season of my life right now. Mm-hmm.
Like, if you don't realize that it is like the most beautiful day and you're in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, you're living like a robot without a soul. Right. I mean, but there's so many days like this that I don't notice. Like it is gorgeous out. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And so I think just having that, that bandwidth, because when I have that room, I'm still, I still work just as hard. So it's not laziness. Mm-hmm. I st I, I, I still work just as hard, but I, if I just have that buffer, or if I just start the morning, like I did this, this, this morning, me and another buddy in town, uh, we've done it twice now. Uh, it's the weirdest thing ever. We, it's a walk in talk. So he's a therapist in town and we just, we did this about a month and a half ago, him and I, he's just like, Hey, instead of grabbing coffee, do you wanna go on a walk?
And I'm like, sure. Well, three different friends of his saw him and three different friends of mine saw me. And a couple of them said, well, I'd like to hang out with you guys when you go on a walk. And so he's just like, how about we just like, invite other people to go on a walk with us? And I'm like, that's, that's the weirdest thing ever, but I think it's fantastic. Let's do it. Yeah. And so, like this morning we did it again and we walked all over on this beautiful morning. You couldn't have picked a and it just makes you feel human. And so when I have back to that question, like with the burnout, if I have some room again, and not laziness, I, I, I'm like, the laziness, like for me is like, ugh, that just how I'm wired. Right. But just having space, then I feel human.
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
I've been just thinking this whole idea of autopilot mm-hmm.
Yes. You're in good company, man. Tim and I walk and talk all the time. Mm-hmm.
Different, I, sorry, I don't wanna jump in, but does it have anything to do with the moment that you became really bald
The moment I actually became really bald. Uh, this is another thing I tell men that I see any receding hairline. I'm like, one of the best decisions you'll ever make buddy, just go for
It's sc blade down
Ash. Do the
Blade.
Just, just just go down as far as you can. I'm
Holding out so I can grow a beard when says
You do need one, or you do need one or the other. No. For, for, for me, it's kind of two different things. Um, through my dark time, one of the things that got highlighted inside of me was the people pleaser. And, um, I, I mentioned elementary school, whatever. Well, we moved in sixth grade to a new town. And I went from being the biggest loser in my class to having the cutest girl in the new town call me, uh, in this new town. And I thought it was a joke. Hmm. Like, I thought it was a setup and it wasn't. And so then like from then on, never struggled at, at, at all. Hmm. But I struggled my whole life with being a people blazer. Mm-hmm.
If people really get to know you, they'll, they'll leave you. Okay. Mm-hmm.
And so like, I just weirdly began to like, no, like, love, like, has no strings attached. Even though your love has not looked like any strings attached, you still are doing this in hopes that they'll like you. So I, I think that was a huge shift for me. And also like a, another huge shift for me was just like, you know, as a, as a leader, as a boss, like, I, I, I, I didn't do a great job of caring for my team, the staff that worked for me and not, I was never like this hard angry boss ever. That's the opposite of me. Right. Right. People pleaser. But I had, you know, I, I, I ran hard and, um, and so I, I think just even like acknowledging that like, um, that that's, I, I'm surprised I'm even saying this, but like, I just really like No, like they got, your team has to know you care about them, Adam.
Yeah. Instead of just like, like, and so like, that was a huge shift. The other thing that for, for me was just rhythms. Like, uh, which I feel like is like the, a hot word right now mm-hmm.
And, uh, again, that like, it's just like, no, that you're not gonna do the day very well like this. And then it's hard to get out cuz it's like, well, I got another meeting, another meeting, another meeting. Right. But when I start out the day, not just on Sunday morning, and it sets me up, like, for, for me, I'm one of those people, the moment I'm not walking with Jesus, it's, it's like, it's evident. It's not like evident three weeks from now, it's evident as fast as like, if I unplugged that light right there, it would turn off and you'd be like, man, that light was just working five seconds ago. I don't know why it's not working. Well, if you plug it in, like I, I probably will work. So you plug it back in and 10 minutes later someone trips and unplugs it. I don't know what's wrong with that thing. It won't work. Well, I bet if you plug it like, that is my soul, the mo like in the most non pastors way. The, the moment I'm not walking with Jesus, it says evident as like, unplugging me. It's like, man, this thing was working. My soul was working five seconds ago. Like, I don't know why. Well, if you plug it back in, it probably will work. This is, oh gosh, thank God the light still works. So
What's, what's that mean to plug that in and are you just seeing that? Because for me, I, I feel that internally, I don't know if other people see that maybe in the Hmm. But what, what's that look like to plug in and I Yeah,
Go for it. Yeah. You know, like there's the typical, like, read your Bible. Right, right, right, right. Pray. Like, so I, that's part of it. But for me it's just like really that, you know, brother Lawrence practice in the presence of God, like, just like the throughout the day like, Hey, hey God, like I would you just help. Like, I'm just worried about this. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay, cool. Like, it's not like, it's not like this, you know, like pray like close the eyes and all this, it's just like, Hey, I could really get you. Like, Lord, help me to come into this next meeting. I like, I know this is gonna be a hard conversation. Like, I think just, and, and also just acknowledge like, it is just beautiful out today. Mm-hmm.
No, that's beautiful.
Yeah. The word I keep coming to mind, like keeps coming to mind for me is like awareness. Like, it seems like you're able to become self-aware at some point and just figure out, Hey, this is what I'm doing. That's a tough road, right? Yeah. Like, that's a big one, right? Mm-hmm.
Or becoming, how you're becoming self-aware.
Yeah. Well,
Yeah. Yeah. I, I honestly, it's, that's maybe it like self-awareness is huge. I, I think that season brought it up to me. Uhhuh.
Okay. Mm-hmm.
Right? Yeah. You
Know, it's like I've been trying to tell you, you just haven't listened. Yep. And so, um, for me that like really that was, um, I think that's what what I felt like God was telling me was, Hey Adam, uh, whether I caused this or not, the situation, I've been trying to get your attention with this people pleaser thing since you were a little kid. Mm-hmm.
It makes me think of, uh, we we're talking to Bob Goff and his, one of his things that he would always do is, is say, what's it like to live on the other side of me? Just like what you said. Mm-hmm.
Open everything
Yeah. Whatever. It's so that, I mean that, that is probably the basis of self-awareness. Yeah. Yeah. Is coming with humility, a right view of oneself, which is beautiful and tainted. Mm-hmm.
Something is something else too, and this is so I don't, I can't even fully explain this. So Enneagram, I am a three achiever mm-hmm.
This. Yeah. I can do this, that.
And I still got four things. And so I would get, I would be in a room by myself getting angry and God was like, that's awesome. Uh, you're not going to
Be done for somebody like me.
Mm-hmm.
Even watch this.
Yeah. It's like, but it's just there. And I, I don't know what that looks like for, for whoever's like in different people's lives, but that for me, it, again, at first it was such a frustration, but now I see it as the greatest gift. Yeah.
I'm a three as well. And, uh, sounds like we've got really similar stories,
Both douche bags. Yeah. He said Dru Dru is a new, it's derivative. It's Bulgarian. Bulgarian. Yes. Uh,
I met a Bulgarian guy this week,
Uh, so sounds like we're kind of on similar path to this year. I've decided, and this is probably my three coming out in a weird sideways way. So I've like decided, well, I'm not gonna create my own adventure this year. Which would, which would typically, cause I'm a musician, it's like go out and make tours and make sure I've got a full calendar and I'm mm-hmm.
And I was about like week five. I was like, I'm a worthless human being.
Yeah. One of the what kind of, kind of some a thought that came to mind. So I often will in the past have worked it where I will try to, uh, make a connection happen. Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Be aware of other people. I mean that, that's when you're seeing, that's when you're seeing a kid in that moment. That's when you're seeing or wanting to have seen that, that yes, the CEO is, you're actually able to, there's enough space in your heart that you're putting that into the rhythm of your life to see other people. Just that intentionality is so good. Man. I love
That. I also, I think we're rethinking stillness with people. That's what it sounds like. We're val, we're reintroducing the value of being still with people not in maybe a physical, non-moving way, but in, in the chaos in mm-hmm.
But really there's like a beauty of like, we are both so fully present that it doesn't really matter what we're producing right now. Like this has as much value as the seven meetings I had this morning. Mm-hmm.
It makes me think again. And like, you've gotta be able to be still with yourself. Mm-hmm.
Things. Blessing.
Blessing. Mm-hmm.
Yeah. To get, to get to that though, it's so crazy cuz you can have it in yourself, but then to have another person in that mm-hmm.
And I thought what a powerful I I I I can do that with my wife. Like we can be totally quiet and yet connected. The only other person that I, I and my kids as well. Um, I can do that of just being like with my daughter. I mean, I like, she's still at the place where she'll let me put my hand on top of hers. Yeah. And my, my dad is the other person that comes to mind. I can, I can be in the presence with my dad and we don't have to say a word mm-hmm.
Love that. Mm-hmm.
Yeah. This, this is the, honestly, probably one of the most candid conversation podcasts I've ever been on. This our
That's baby. We Do's
Special. And you have a podcast called The Conversation. Is that correct?
I do. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's, um, it's, I've had it for a few years now, and it's been just a fun journey. Um, it, the reason I continue to do it, hopefully it encourages somebody else, but it's given me an excuse just to connect with random, random people, uh, here in Sioux Falls. Mm-hmm.
Play Sioux Falls the other day? I felt, I, I texted him saying, Hey, I think we're near you. Yeah, I think we did. I feel like we were close. Yeah. Yeah. And it hurt my feelings a little bit that he didn't come. He was like, yeah, I've got other things to do and to perform course. No. I was so sad
That I missed
It. No, it, it doesn't hurt. Not that bad.
Um, do you know a Bulgarian?
I do not know a Bulgarian Don't
Either. I don't know. The last time I talked to him.
I know two now. You know, two now. Yeah. Don't worry about it.
One a zero right now.
A competition. The three heads ahead. Let's go.
I mean, yeah, I was just thinking about it. That was just such a random, or a Bulgarian
He was just, just sharing life with us. I like
That. Yes. Let's go
Last place I visited, uh, Bismark, North Dakota, which is such a weird thing that, that's where I was last week. Oh,
Wow. Is
That even, I think we're, I don't even in cast
I, I got Bismarck is so cold. I mean, it's cold in South Dakota, like Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is brutal in Bismarck, but away from that, gosh, what a, it's actually a really legit town. I don't know. I'm an old house guy. It's got a really neat old house district and downtown's got this. A sweet coffee shop, brewery, all this kind of stuff going on.
Gosh. Thank you. Uh, something you're bad at.
Oh gosh. Everything I, I, I wish I was, I I'm bad at construction type stuff, like building stuff and I wish I wasn't. Yes. But
Do you have like an inflated sense of ego around it or confidence? Because I am too. But I'll walk through like a furniture store with my wife and be like, I could build that table
Man. The only thing, actually the only thing I've ever built was our kitchen table. We have it at our guest house right now, so it's still in existence, but that's the only thing. And I might have had help from a friend who was actually designing it. So there you go.
Gosh, you didn't find your match
Seamstress. No worries.
The best thing, sorry, really quick. When we're on the road or anywhere with people, crystal sees something like a business, he's like, huh, I wonder if I could get into that. Yeah, I think I could do that. Business.
Oh yeah. That
Is, that is 100% me is I
Got the BNL figured out thing. Hundred percent.
Yeah.
Delivered puppies.
He delivers puppies. Yeah. And Chris is in the back going, will, if I wonder if I, how much do you get per dog?
How much does it cost? Like how long do you have to keep these dogs? What, how much a day does it cost to feed them? You know, it's a,
Oh, okay. You at the age of 21.
What, what's the question with me? At the age of 21, I
Believe I just gave it to you. You at the age of 21. Mm-hmm.
Right. Uh, how far is too far? I'm sorry, that's the wrong question. That's, I've got a note for my kids.
Probably pushed that too. Uh, but for me, I always have to ask that question and like, meeting a random stranger and it's like, can I, can I invite them into my home? Can I invite them to supper? I should probably talk my, to my introverted
Wife. So good. Sorry. I was just on a high school, uh, youth trip and so that's, that, that question's on my mind. Okay. Um, happy place. My
Happy place is my, my chair right out in front of my house. Eden Peanuts, feeding my squirrel named Patrick. Good
Old Patty. So much there. Patty. Uh, favorite favorite TV character?
Favorite TV character? The, um, the mom on the Goldbergs.
Oh, my friend is on that show.
Oh, she name Drop is my favorite
Habit. Pl twist. The
Mom
Not the mom.
Okay. Bad habit.
Bad habit. Oh my goodness. Uh, chewing my nails and saying yes. When I know. I should probably say no.
Strong. Uh, pet peeve.
Pet peeve. Uh, people celebrating the downfall of other people.
Uh,
Ooh. Ooh. Gosh. That could be a whole podcast. I know,
I know. I was like, okay,
Thank you so much.
Uh, thanks. Thanks to the three of you and genuinely and thoroughly enjoyed this.
Good. Well,
Thanks. You small razor. Is that,
What was Skull? Skull blade. Skull Blade. Skull Blade. Oh gosh. Skull blade. 2000. What was it? Was it Skull Razor? I
Don't remember.
Instead of like being paid for
It.
Need to get, you need to
Make them a sponsor.
Skull Blade. Yeah. We got the wrong skull Blade.
Thank you guys. This, thank you so much.
One thing I really loved about our conversation with Adam Weber today was just his ability to be self-aware. I think a lot of his ability to be able to love people and meet people where they were. Yeah. And then kind of do most of the things that he talked about in the podcast, was because he was able to come to a place and just acknowledge himself mm-hmm.
Yeah. When he asked himself, so what's it look like to live on the other side of me? That's right. Yeah. That is such a profound comment. When if we are all able to ask that question, what's it look like to live on the other side of me? Whether it's people that you work with or your family mm-hmm.
Yeah. In this conversation, I think Adam Webber invites us to rethink stillness with people and kind of invite ourselves and others to value being present in the middle of the chaos, in the middle of the crazy, um, busy world we live in. Or a tragedy to take a moment to just kind of breathe with other people. And maybe that's what we can walk into moving forward after this conversation
Is just being,
Being still with people. Valuing it by pausing and seeing who's in front of you and who's asking for maybe your attention in that moment. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.